Thursday, November 24, 2005

nothing of interst

It's ture what they say, that you can never go home.

16 Comments:

Blogger E.Marie said...

thats the benefit of younger brothers and sisters. Something fun when you go home except they all seem to be gettitng taller then me.... but yea i walk around the place i grew up and lots of things are very different.
LATERS
PS Su amazingly enough has not gone crazy spending time with my family...

10:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Home is an imaginary place, or so I once heard.....

11:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Judge.Justin.
This is Michael. Whetten. aka Jonah Stormcloud. aka Michael Machismo. aka Judas Browne. aka Francis the Butcher. ... i dont know.
anyways, here is something to get into - at the following website:
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you can register to become part of the largest online writing workshop on the web. Its actually a really good site. Just go to the part that says "join now" and join. Then you can go over to the right where it says short stories, or whatever and click on the link. for every five stories that you read and review, another 5 - 10 people have to read or review yours. they give some pretty brutal feedback. some people are dumb, others ignorant, others profane, but some people actually give really good advice on how to improve your stories. I thought that it might be interesting to you since you like to write and you are getting pretty good at it. They have a section for short stories, which is anything over a 1000 words and then then have something else called flash stories which is anything between 200 and 1000 words. you may like the flash stories. anyways, check it check it check it out.
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3:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

home is where your heart lies. so mayb you didnt go home?

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or maybe you dont have a heart

9:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or maybe that saying isnt true

9:24 PM  
Blogger Kelsey said...

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11:23 PM  
Blogger E.Marie said...

anonymous is so silly... i would have to say home is really where you want it to be. where you can be comfortable, yourself and start up a full conversation during the prayer and start laughing way to hard!
Home is way to difficult a word to define its not a place but a state...
Side not it is really annoying when kel's sign in is saved on blogger when your commenting and press enter without thinking...

11:25 PM  
Blogger Amanda/Mandie said...

Home is a state of mind really. It's sometimes fleeting and othertimes impossible to find, but I believe it always exists. Life circumstances, at least in my case, dictate how I see home and where I find it.

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe the "state of mind" that you are referring to using the word "home" is actually nastolgia, which may be an artificial historical re-creation of what you want or don't want right now. home will undoubtedly change as your worldview changes. But one thing remains constant in "home" narratives and that is a historical place. you may not like your home - or the place that you feel most nastolgic about. The idea of home is an artifical one. it is something created. when judge says you can never go home he is paraphrasing tom wolfe who popularized the idea of the sad realization that we are mortal and regardless of what we do we can not go back to a more simple time (even if that more simple time didnt really exist - did you ever have a miserable christmas or birthday, but now that you look back on it it seems happy or warm - why is that? have you decided to emphasize things outside of your actual experience?) you can never go home, because home doesn't exist. a good handling of this concept in a popular and fun text is the novel Cold Mountain. read it.

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To me, home is where you feel most loved and accepted. It may or may not be the home you grew up in. It is where you feel safe, at peace, and free to act as silly as you want without fear of people judging you or holding it against you. Hopefully, home IS where the heart is.

5:37 PM  
Blogger E.Marie said...

amen. to the comment just above.

8:16 PM  
Blogger Judge of the Whetten's said...

I do belive that home is where the heart is, but I also belive in that idea of a home that is purely fictional. My home never was really and may never be. That does not matter however cause it is where I keep my things. So if home is where the heart is and home doesn't exciest then does the heart not exist. The things I hold dear and that make up what I call my heart (which is not really the fleshy organ, but more a grouping of values and dreams) dwell in a place that doesn't exist. This is both true and not ture. For they don't exist and have never been. They are purly creation made in a mental state, wheather by DNA, enviroment, or what is called the soul crafted my thought of these thing. The other point is that I know however that they do exist. This documant is proof of that. One can not have a conversation on a topic that doesn't exist. It's like see a color that isn't there, or driving a car that was never invented just can't be done.

11:42 PM  
Blogger Su Chong said...

umm...cotton candy anyone?..

12:14 AM  
Blogger E.Marie said...

What I learnt in devotional today:
"We are not at home on this earth, we are at school."
How true is that saying. It really hit me and made me realise how true that is. The most we ever feel at home is when we are with family and close to god and christ because that is the closest we are to heaven.
We all keep saying home is where your heart is. Where else should your heart by but with christ.
Sorry inspiration kind of hit today and im glad i went instead of taking a nap.

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree with Justin, if this is what justin was trying to say, when he said, to paraphrase what i understood him saying - that home is within you. home is a place that some people have and others are looking for, or perhaps have lost. the concept of "home" that i think everyone referring to here may be different - the same "word" but a different "sense" or meaning. Justin talks about home in a way the way a person compares a map with the territory or place that that map represents. The map may look nothing like the actual place - in fact if you imagine a map that did perfectly reflect the place that it was trying to represent it would be a perfect 1:1 scale and be perfectly useless. a map is a tool, justin seems to have created a mental "map" to re-present and interpret his "life" or the sum of his experiences. In his quest to be perfectly honest home must not be the thing hoped for, but the thing realized - or better yet, the thing being realized. the above poster said that home is where God is - well all scriptures (both LDS and other) say that you must have God with you all the time, i.e. cultivate the kingdom of God within yourself. Home, i agree, may be a destination (which may or may not exist depending on how you are defining it or what you are looking for) but hopefully that destination will become a realization of character and then you really can make your home anywhere. Jesus spent time with drunks, lepers, whores, and lawyers - i can't help but think that we would like to think that he honestly made his home with them. The goal, seems to me, to be both the absolution (even in the catholic meaning) of the concept of stranger and the full embracing of individual self. that shouldn't sound "new age", but instead simply seeing that we are completely individuals as well as completely part of a system of dependence. it is a paradox that perhaps can only be resolved by coming to terms with HOME in the way Justin has proposed. which is to say that you, one day, will be able to feel at home - i.e. those feelings posted by anonymous: (To me, home is where you feel most loved and accepted. It may or may not be the home you grew up in. It is where you feel safe, at peace, and free to act as silly as you want without fear of people judging you or holding it against you. Hopefully, home IS where the heart is.) everywhere. To feel "home" everywhere is the ultimate goal. I think thats what Jesus was trying to teach the people. Thats something that the church provides in a big way no matter where you go in the world. But the feeling needs, especially with LDS people, to extend beyond the boundaries of the church. if you only feel at home with members of the church or in "clean places" then you may be missing the point of what home is.

12:40 AM  

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